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there is new intrigue in the fight over the fiscal cliff talks today. both sides have messages out this morning that seem to echo the same old position. this on the heels of president obama holding a campaign-style event in suburban philadelphia to sell his solution. he said if congress does not extend the bush tax cuts for the middle class, everyone's taxes will go up january 1st. >> i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> meanwhile house speaker john boehner says the latest proposal from the white house would cripple the economy. the plan calls for a boost in revenue by $1.6 trillion over the next decade. >> they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean it's, it's -- not a serious proposal. so right now we're almost nowhere. >> >> mike viqueira joins us live from the white house. where is almost nowhere? >> it's inside the beltway and it's business as usual. it's also december 1st, alex, and
there is new intrigue in the fight over the fiscal cliff talks today. both sides have messages out this morning that seem to echo the same old position. this on the heels of president obama holding a campaign-style event in suburban philadelphia to sell his solution. he said if congress does not extend the bush tax cuts for the middle class, everyone's taxes will go up january 1st. >> i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for...
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fiscal cliff talks are they a nonstarter? >> i tell you, you listen to everything that is being said publicly. you see the president there. it's clear that the election, yes, is over. but the campaign goes on here. you know, i really believe that there two things that are clear from the white house to republicans. we are still in preliminary stages here, which is the good news, considering they are far apart. number two, the white house clearly feels it has the upper hand. it came with the $1.6 billion in new revenues and that's twice what the president was talking about before the election. republicans, obviously, rejecting it out of hand. we all heard by now republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell laughed at it. there you see some of the provisions there. $600 billion in savings. some of it from medicare, another 50 billion in spending and new spending on infrastructure and stimulus spending. that's something that republicans aren't going to want to go to. the two sides are far apart. here we are on december 1st, th
fiscal cliff talks are they a nonstarter? >> i tell you, you listen to everything that is being said publicly. you see the president there. it's clear that the election, yes, is over. but the campaign goes on here. you know, i really believe that there two things that are clear from the white house to republicans. we are still in preliminary stages here, which is the good news, considering they are far apart. number two, the white house clearly feels it has the upper hand. it came with...
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. >> this weekend, you can talk with oklahoma senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff, affordable care act, and the future of the republican party on book tv. the senator has written several reports, including his latest, the debt bomb. that is live sunday at noon eastern on book tv on c-span-2. >> now we talk to a capitol hill reporter about the senate's work on the defense authorization bill. >> the senate has been in a holding pattern on the defense authorization bill, but finally found a way to start consideration of amendments. what broke the logjam? >> rand paul had a desire to bring an amendment that would have applied sixth amendment rights to citizens who had been taken in the war on terror on u.s. homeland. he was concerned he would not get the time. senator mccain is the ranking member of the armed services committee. he assured him he would not try to block the amendment. alternately, senator dianne feinstein agreed to what senator paul favors. that amendment was approved. >> there were several other notable amendments to the bill. can you tell us about those? >> the iran s
. >> this weekend, you can talk with oklahoma senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff, affordable care act, and the future of the republican party on book tv. the senator has written several reports, including his latest, the debt bomb. that is live sunday at noon eastern on book tv on c-span-2. >> now we talk to a capitol hill reporter about the senate's work on the defense authorization bill. >> the senate has been in a holding pattern on the defense authorization bill,...
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that is president obama's lead negotiator in the fiscal cliff talks. it's all happening tomorrow on fox news sunday. check your local listings for the time and channel in your area. >> rick: speak of the president, we could soon be learning who he wants to have serve in his administration in his second term. source telling fox news, a slate of nominations could be coming this month and that would likely include a replacement for the defense secretary, leon panetta, and if that does happen, it will come a little sooner than a lot of people had expected. the short list reportedly includes former republican senator chuck hagel, deputy defense secretary ashton carter, michelle floroni, a top official and democratic senator john kerry >> arthel: a reported murder-suicide rocking the nfl today. police say kansas city chiefs linebacker gentleman von belcher shot and killed his girlfriend this morning. he than drove to arrowhead stadium where he killed himself in front of his coach and general manager. elizabeth prann live from atlanta with more on this very s
that is president obama's lead negotiator in the fiscal cliff talks. it's all happening tomorrow on fox news sunday. check your local listings for the time and channel in your area. >> rick: speak of the president, we could soon be learning who he wants to have serve in his administration in his second term. source telling fox news, a slate of nominations could be coming this month and that would likely include a replacement for the defense secretary, leon panetta, and if that does...
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. >>> apparent progress in the so-called fiscal cliff talks. it appears both sides may be digging in their heels. nbc's mike viqueira joins me from the white house with the very latest. if there's anything new to report. seems like everyone is in their own separate corners, mike. >> reporter: it's no longer november. this is december 1st. it's a new month, the last month before we go over the fiscal cliff. now both sides after a lot of bipartisan talk of compromise in that post-election period, alex, it turns out what we have now a typical washington standoff. >> the president of the united states. >> reporter: visiting a toy factory outside philadelphia, the president urged congress to act and avoid the fiscal cliff. if not, he says, taxes go up for everyone, including the middle class. >> it's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: with the election over the president has begun a new kind of campaign, for votes in congress. a series of white house meetings with business leaders, a grassro
. >>> apparent progress in the so-called fiscal cliff talks. it appears both sides may be digging in their heels. nbc's mike viqueira joins me from the white house with the very latest. if there's anything new to report. seems like everyone is in their own separate corners, mike. >> reporter: it's no longer november. this is december 1st. it's a new month, the last month before we go over the fiscal cliff. now both sides after a lot of bipartisan talk of compromise in that...
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cliff talks. all tomorrow on fox news sunday, check your local listings for the time and channel in your area. >> heather: wicked weather out west pounding parts of northern california for a second day in a row. the rain soaked area bracing for more stormy weather today. new warnings of potential mudslides and flash floods after yesterday's system washed out streets, brought down power lines, knocking out electricity to thousands. dominic is live for us with the latest. dominic? >> hi there. worst yet to come. this third storm coming through overnight tonight. no one really sure quite should have water it's going to drench the region with. we had two major storms come through that dumped so much, that we've seen flooding everywhere. first person reports coming in of probably being damaged, particularly down in fulsome where a park became flooded and the water gushed through people's homes. here is one of the residents affected by that. listen to what he saw. >> i don't have carpet. >> it clogged u
cliff talks. all tomorrow on fox news sunday, check your local listings for the time and channel in your area. >> heather: wicked weather out west pounding parts of northern california for a second day in a row. the rain soaked area bracing for more stormy weather today. new warnings of potential mudslides and flash floods after yesterday's system washed out streets, brought down power lines, knocking out electricity to thousands. dominic is live for us with the latest. dominic? >>...
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save the best for last. >> eliot: is anyone else sick of talking about the fiscal cliff? a year ago facing a stagnant economy and long term deficit everybody in washington agreed they should come together make the tough decisions that had to be made. something that would provide short-term stimulus but long-term debt relief. after all we all knew something had to be done. the health of our nation depended on it. washington, surprise surprise, decided to delay for the umpteenth time kicking the proverbial can down the road. then the campaign really heated up and we were told we would have our sweet relief after the election. finally the story went voters would provide clarity, a choice played out across the country that would deliver the elusive answers. what are we getting? endless posturing, game playing and the same rhetoric over and over again. both sides standing up and preening themselves campaign style as if they expect the public to pay attention and give deference to the repetition of the same ideas. i for one are tired of it. americans have been poked and prodded
save the best for last. >> eliot: is anyone else sick of talking about the fiscal cliff? a year ago facing a stagnant economy and long term deficit everybody in washington agreed they should come together make the tough decisions that had to be made. something that would provide short-term stimulus but long-term debt relief. after all we all knew something had to be done. the health of our nation depended on it. washington, surprise surprise, decided to delay for the umpteenth time...
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the president traveled to pennsylvania to visit a small business today to talk about the fiscal cliff. unfortunately, the president and members of his own party who were proposing that we let many small businesses -- as in hundreds of thousands of them -- go over the fiscal cliff. simply put, that's why we don't have an agreement as yet. they said yesterday, this is not a game. i used to be a small business owner. small business owners are regular men and women from all backgrounds who, in today's economy, are facing challenges on a daily basis. the president's tax increase would be another crippling blow for them while doing little to nothing to solve the bigger problem here, our national deficit and national debt. this debt doesn't exist because we don't tax small businesses enough, it exists because washington continues to spend too much and raising taxes on small businesses instead of taking a balanced approach that also cuts spending is wrong. it's only going to make it harder for our economy to grow and if our economy doesn't grow, americans don't get new jobs and the debt probl
the president traveled to pennsylvania to visit a small business today to talk about the fiscal cliff. unfortunately, the president and members of his own party who were proposing that we let many small businesses -- as in hundreds of thousands of them -- go over the fiscal cliff. simply put, that's why we don't have an agreement as yet. they said yesterday, this is not a game. i used to be a small business owner. small business owners are regular men and women from all backgrounds who, in...
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then, senator orrin hatch from utah gives the republican address on the fiscal cliff which refers to automatic tax increases and spending cuts that would go into effect in 2013. >> hi, everybody. i'm here on the factory floor of a business in hatfield, pennsylvania, where folks are working around the clock making toys to keep up with the christmas rush. and i came here because, back in washington, the clock is ticking on some important decisions that will have a real impact on our businesses - and on families like yours. the most pressing decision has to do with your taxes. see, at the end of the year, middle-class tax cuts are set to expire. and there are two things that can happen. first, if congress does nothing, every family will see their income taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see their income taxes rise by $2,200. we can't let that happen. our families can't afford it, and neither can our economy. the second option is better. right now, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000
then, senator orrin hatch from utah gives the republican address on the fiscal cliff which refers to automatic tax increases and spending cuts that would go into effect in 2013. >> hi, everybody. i'm here on the factory floor of a business in hatfield, pennsylvania, where folks are working around the clock making toys to keep up with the christmas rush. and i came here because, back in washington, the clock is ticking on some important decisions that will have a real impact on our...
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we'll talk about that. >>> plus, at the end of the day this fiscal cliff debate will come down to two men. the speaker of the house and the president of the united states dealing one-on-one. we will go behind closed doors and into the war room. you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> we are watching a developing story in kansas city, missouri, right now. this is what police say appears to be a murder/suicide involving a 25-year-old nfl
we'll talk about that. >>> plus, at the end of the day this fiscal cliff debate will come down to two men. the speaker of the house and the president of the united states dealing one-on-one. we will go behind closed doors and into the war room. you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is...
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many folks are talking about the fiscal cliff and if we can't have dialogue and decision making in the u.s. senate, then our government is unable to respond to the big issues that we face. and i can tell you my perspective comes from having gone first to the u.s. senate when i was 19. it was 1976 and i covered the tax act of that year and i saw amendment after amendment, brought up, debated, decided. that's the way the senate generally work. the senate is completely different today. it's paralyzed and broken in a way no one could have envisioned a couple of decades ago. >> i want to show some data on that point. culture motions have skyrocketed. percent of judicial nominees confirmed by the president for barack obama is 42.8%. you see there in the 90s and 80s and then they go down dramatically. and to give you a sense of how things have changed historically, this is an important historical document. we all know when we cover politics, they're counting votes. they only have 58 votes in the senate. not going to happen. this is from 1964 and this is a note from president lyndon johnson's
many folks are talking about the fiscal cliff and if we can't have dialogue and decision making in the u.s. senate, then our government is unable to respond to the big issues that we face. and i can tell you my perspective comes from having gone first to the u.s. senate when i was 19. it was 1976 and i covered the tax act of that year and i saw amendment after amendment, brought up, debated, decided. that's the way the senate generally work. the senate is completely different today. it's...
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defense and domestic cuts could be avoided if a grand bargain is struck to avoid the fiscal cliff. if not, it will get ugly, shep. >> shepard: yeah, it will. give us an idea what we are talking about in the way of cuts here if this happens. >> as you mentioned they are split between domestic and defense cuts. let's take a look at the domestic cuts. educational programs including special education will be cut by $2.3 billion medicare payments to hospitals cut by $5.6 billion. prescription drug benefits lose $591 million. on the defense side, across the board 9.4% cut regardless of the program's merit. defense department operations and maintenance loses $3.9 billion in 2013. air force and navy aircraft purchases get cut by more than $4.2 billion. that is why some are calling cutting with a machete instead of a scalp pull. shep? >> shepard: stocks closed higher after a choppy day of trading. dow industrial average eked out 4 point gain over uncertainty about fiscal cliff thing. weakest spending report since may. a lot of storm out of that. according to the commerce department, spendin
defense and domestic cuts could be avoided if a grand bargain is struck to avoid the fiscal cliff. if not, it will get ugly, shep. >> shepard: yeah, it will. give us an idea what we are talking about in the way of cuts here if this happens. >> as you mentioned they are split between domestic and defense cuts. let's take a look at the domestic cuts. educational programs including special education will be cut by $2.3 billion medicare payments to hospitals cut by $5.6 billion....
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. >> reporter: this week on capitol hill with fierce negotiations taking place over the fiscal cliff we spoke to congressional leaders. >> rg3 a big fan >> big fan. >> reporter: kris van hollen represents maryland's 8th district. >> i think congress would love to trade our approval ratings for his and the reason is he's able to bring people together. congress as the clock winds down we're in the fourth quarter as we approach the fiscal cliff. if we can deliver like rg3 delivers we'll be doing well. >> do you see him somebody as you a neither? >> absolutely. this guy sim oppressive. >> reporter: former republican vice presidential nominee paul ryan usually doesn't stop for hallway interviews but he made an exception to praise rg3 even though a congressman from wisconsin has to put the packers first. >> i like to think more that green bay is america's team. we can think the same way. look rg3 it's great to see a young guy come out and be successful. >> reporter: even the majority leader is inspired by rg3. >> he offers bipartisan hope. we hope the redskins have a successful season. >>
. >> reporter: this week on capitol hill with fierce negotiations taking place over the fiscal cliff we spoke to congressional leaders. >> rg3 a big fan >> big fan. >> reporter: kris van hollen represents maryland's 8th district. >> i think congress would love to trade our approval ratings for his and the reason is he's able to bring people together. congress as the clock winds down we're in the fourth quarter as we approach the fiscal cliff. if we can deliver like...
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. >> we are also talking about as julia was commencing there the fiscal cliff now what washington the gridlock means i think it's most telling because what senator matt baucus from montana said we have 31 days left yet. we are not near a deal yet. we can't expect any sort of a deal with any weeks before christmas i would think. >> the big knock on the president through the this process has been a failure to lead. i think one that sticks rather well. because, instead of sitting down with john boehner. instead of trying to hash something out. he is out there again campaigning, gives speeches, instead of being the one that sits down and gets this deal down. here is the president on again what appears to be the campaign trail yesterday in pennsylvania. >> santa delivers everywhere, i have been keeping my own naughty and nice list for washington. >> [ laughter ] >> you should keep your eye hun gets some connects this year. some members of congress who get them and some who don't. i'm ready to sign it. there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for an emergency
. >> we are also talking about as julia was commencing there the fiscal cliff now what washington the gridlock means i think it's most telling because what senator matt baucus from montana said we have 31 days left yet. we are not near a deal yet. we can't expect any sort of a deal with any weeks before christmas i would think. >> the big knock on the president through the this process has been a failure to lead. i think one that sticks rather well. because, instead of sitting down...